Wandering Souls: Expat Life, Astrology & Surrender with Diane Nnaemeka [The Sacred Style Podcast-Ep. 4]
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What we cover:
[00:00:00] - Welcome to the Sacred Style Podcast
[00:02:00] - Beginning of a journey
[00:06:19] - Living Different Lives
[00:09:01] - It’s Just a Cycle, You Don’t Have to Do it Again
[00:15:04] - Surrender into the Unkown
[00:18:53] - Starting a Business in the Middle of a Typhoon
[00:21:15] - Astrology Breakdown
[00:29:04] - Human Design and Business
[00:40:57] - Human Design and Astrology Chart Overlap
[00:44:10] - Final Thoughts & Where to Connect
Daniela:
[00:00:00] Hey there! And welcome to the Sacred Style Podcast. This is a safe space for empaths, intuitives, healers, and coaches, where we get real and go deep to explore the intersection of spirituality, entrepreneurship, personal branding, self-expression, and the fine art and journey of being human. I'm your host, Daniela West, artist, designer, brand coach, and astrologer. As well as founder of the Humanista Co. Where we transform spiritual brands into spiritual magnets to amplify your purpose, impact, and abundance.
So, in today's episode, we're going to have a really interesting conversation. We'll be speaking about our journeys as expats, discovering astrology and human design, and how spirituality and surrender have helped us along the way. So, to expand more on this, I'm bringing in a really special guest.
Today, I'll be speaking with the lovely Diane Nnaemeka, a world traveler, astrologist, spiritualist, community builder, and founder of the Women in Business and Abundance community for women entrepreneurs. So, Diane, welcome, welcome! I'm so happy to have you here today.
Diane:
[00:01:16] Thank you so much. I loved your own introduction, and then the way you introduced me was perfect. Yeah.
Daniela:
[00:01:21] Good. I am so glad to hear it. And really, I'm so excited to have you here today because you know, as an expat, as a fellow entrepreneur, as a fellow astrologer. There's just so much to explore together and so many parallels in our lives, like uncanny parallels. So I'm just really excited to dive in with you, and where? Where are you right now?
Diane:
[00:01:52] Currently, I'm in Hanoi, in Vietnam.
Daniela:
[00:01:55] So cool! So can you? Let's kick it off, can you? You know, dive into sort of the journey that led you to Vietnam. Let us know kinda the journey that brought you to the work you're doing today and where you currently are.
Diane:
[00:02:14]: Yeah. So, I'm gonna start with Vietnam. Because, or maybe just southeast Asia in general, like growing up, I don't have any Asian roots like there are people growing up, you know, like you're into anime, and maybe, like certain shows that have, like, it's just a lot of Asian influence. I never was into it, maybe, besides Pokeman you count that. And Digimon, I'm telling on myself.
Daniela:
[00:02:39] Come on!
Diane:
[00:02:43] But yeah. So it's like it's something where I didn't see it coming. But I think it is its own spiritual journey to even be somewhere in the world where you don't have any roots. Your family is not from here. You came here by yourself. Like I came to Thailand by myself and Vietnam by myself. So that's what it's been; it's been an amazing journey.
[00:03:07] And also, I think in this series of events have led to a lot of reflection. A lot of reflection also, just like getting to a space where. I'm more sure of myself than I probably have ever been in my life, even though I don't know how things are gonna go. But it's that sureness I think I'm in the right, like the right frame of mind in the right space. So yeah, that's me in Vietnam. So far, the journey.
Daniela:
[00:03:35] Beautiful. Yeah, I mean, it's so interesting. I can relate so much because I'm currently in Spain right now. It's actually my 5th time living in Spain over the last 10 years. I've sort of been back and forth between Spain and the US. And it was similar for me where I don't have any family in Spain. I don't have any ancestral roots that I know of in Spain. I just felt called. I don't know if it was a deeper soul or subconscious level. But since I was about 20 years old, I just really instinctively felt called to come over here and experience life and get immersed. Was it kind of similar for you, or what was the feeling that brought you to Vietnam?
Diane:
[00:04:30] So, Vietnam, it started off with me, having a border run, like when you live in Thailand, or I guess anywhere. I don't know if it's only Asian countries. I'm not sure, but you have an allotted amount of time you can stay if you don't have a longer term visa, and then you have to either go do like a border run, as in, go to like a country by car, for example, like a same day thing and come back, or you can fly out.
[00:05:01] At that time last year, the weather in Chiang Mai was, it was bad because it was smoky season. So I'm like, okay, if I don't have a longer term visa at the moment, and the weather's not great. Let's just try Vietnam. I've never been there, and that's what led me here. And the first city I was in was Da Nang. And wow! I've never lived near the beach in my whole life, and I learned so much about living from water. I was always moisturized, no one talks about that.
Diane:
[00:05:38] Always moisturized by that seawater and then coming to Hanoi. It's a different city. It's very busy. It's bustling like the city's alive. It kind of has a sexish vibe to it. I don't know. Like when I see people going out and all everyone's like dressed up like we have places to go like things to do, people to see. It's a different flavor, and I have lived different lives here. Yes.
Daniela:
[00:06:07] Different lives. Oh, that's super interesting, like in this region of the world. Do you feel that you've actually lived different lives even in the same city?
Diane:
[00:06:19] So the first city I was in was in the south. It's like near the sea, the Nang, and then Hanoi is more towards the north, and I think because it's completely different cities. But then also, like just in a different frame of mind, like the whole process, has been even taking me from what I used to do in work. Which was ESL teaching, like I used to do that way more full-time. But it's like, at this point in my life, it is just not really what I do anymore. And it's a shift.
[00:6:51]So I look at it as like 2 different places. I have had such a huge shift. And also the growth, you know, like what's important to you in your life. I actually have to say it may not be so much about the city as much as the period of time I'm in in my life, but in this time. It's just been like a process; like it's just been ongoing, and it keeps going. The changes I've had, like, I've changed so much. I had like no choice, it feels.
Daniela:
[00:07:22] Oh, my gosh! I completely understand. I really do. I don't know if it is. I'm wondering if the shifts can be accelerated through travel. If that makes sense in shifting your environment. I wonder if you've experienced that shifts things internally more for you rather than just staying in the one place? Has that been a theme for you?
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Diane:
[00:07:49] You know. I do think so. I think, like the movement like the years I was in Thailand. I got to a point where, I mean Covid was part of it. But I hadn't been on a plane in a few years, and the first trip I took was to Cambodia for another border run at that time, and I was like scared. I was like, oh my God, I'm getting on a plane. I haven't traveled in a while. But now, the past year, with, like, all the crazy events, I'm like, traveling is nothing. You're gonna travel. You're gonna get to where you need to go. If you don't have everything, you will figure it out, and also knowing the basic things you need to do when you get there. So it's alleviated a lot of fear because I think it's made me more aware of the fact of what control? There is no control. So you might as well just enjoy where you're at.
Daniela:
[00:08:36]I love that mindset. That's one of the things I love most about travel is like, okay. For me, for example, I've probably moved 20 to 25 times in the last decade. A lot of moving and. Every time, every move comes with its challenges, you know, but I think the best part about it is, it really builds this inner strength and this inner resilience, and almost this for me. It's been kind of this daredevil energy of thinking. Okay, I may not have every single thing figured out about this move or about this trip. I may not have, you know, an entire A to Z to-do list of how I'm going to do this, but I have the vision in mind. I know where I want to be. I know where I'm going. And I trust myself enough to take that 1st step, you know, to dive into the unknown, to let the other steps unfold.Has that been your experience as well?
Diane:
[00:8:46] Yes, you know, we kind of talked about it the other day. I guess this was more of the astrological part of it, the moon, shining a path, and you can't see it. And you're just going off of faith; it's just faith. You literally cannot see the path. There's nothing to see. It is dark.
Daniela:
[00:8:59] Yeah, scary. It is scary in the dark. Yeah.
Diane:
[00:09:01] Yeah. But it's been really I think things do kind of. They bring these gifts out of you like the gift of resilience, like knowing that even if things get a little crazy, you can stand still and look around you and be like this is just a cycle. It's not going to last forever. And then when you come out of it, because something I realized, and this particular part is about astrology, it's made me think of Saturn a lot. How, even if it's tough, you don't have to go through it again. I mean, it's your choice, like, you know, if you want to kind of stay in the cycles and the loops of certain things, I feel like the universe is you're more than welcome to. But that's your own version of suffering. But when you learn you don't have to do it again like you, just it's just done.
Daniela:
[00:09:49] Yeah. Oh, my God, I feel like you are summing up more specifically the last 6 months of my life. I've been thinking a lot about that. And I wanted to touch more on the big shift that you mentioned earlier because I've been going through a really similar shift in my life where I started off also as an English teacher. That's what brought me to Spain originally, and 15 years later, after my first experience as an ESL teacher, I came back to the same country to do the same experience, but in a different city. And what I found was a huge internal shift for myself, where there were just so many things about that role or that environment I just couldn't tolerate anymore. It just felt like nothing was clicking, nothing was flowing. I knew I was feeling called to a different line of work or a different way of impacting people. A different way of showing up in spaces.
[00:10:55] And I love that you mentioned Saturn because when you say that, I think about Karma and the Karmic lessons that our soul comes into this world designed to learn. Those biggest challenges that are so frustrating and awful to go through, sometimes incredibly challenging. But it's almost like our soul chose to go through these very specific lessons so that we could choose to see them from a new perspective and finally break away from them. So we stop repeating these karmic patterns. Has that been your experience when you talk about Saturn and the shift you've been going through?
Diane:
[00:11:40] Yes, I like first I wanna touch on you with like the, how will I say it? Not touch on? I was like, oh, that sounds interesting.
Daniela:
[00:11:50] So many interesting things. Yeah!
Diane:
[00:11:55] But coming to Spain, like 15 years ago, was one experience. And now it's a different experience because this reminds me of a time in Thailand where I wasn't teaching in person anymore. But I was burnt out from teaching online. It's like you're in person. You go online. You think like, oh, it's better. I was like, in 5 different companies at one time, trying to fill in my schedule, okay, this, one doesn't get pay, this one doesn't pay that much, but it will work for now and then like this one pays the most, but they can't give you that many hours, and it was just a mess. It was really a mess.
[00:12:30] So there was a moment. I remember thinking it was a very clear thought. I was like, maybe teaching isn't for me anymore, like, what am I gonna do if I'm not gonna teach? What's next? And then I had a thought right after. And sometimes this happens. And I'm not really sure what this other voice is because it came in really quickly. But it was like, you're gonna find out what's due. You're just going to enjoy yourself. You're gonna have fun like, if this doesn't work like it. There was something I heard, but also gave me the impression that it's like, it's not really about what you're doing per se. It's like what you're learning but also being in aligned spaces. And you're not in control of how long something's gonna last like English teaching, you know, it has a certain income level.
[00:13:10] Doing things like your own business. So if you want to do other things in your life that won't be able to sustain you anymore. Sometimes, if you're in the physical classroom, you have a lot of students that takes a toll on your body after some years. You know, even mentally, it's still a 9 to 5 thing. If you find out in time. 9 to 5 is not your thing. It's not going to work anymore. But that's really life, like things happen. And it just it's like it just doesn't work anymore. So that's why you feel burnt out. You feel sad. You feel upset; you just feel so out of it. So that was part of it for me.
[00:13:44] The shift was realizing that I have options, even if it doesn't like look like it. Because, you know, like, when you're doing business, so many things of business are so subtle, you know, like, it's not really obvious. It's like, you're just kind of like in this way, figuring things out. But you have options, even if you don't want a 9 to 5 job, you can offer your services. It just doesn't look like you can. But that's what it is like. That's a reminder of faith. So, that was a big part of the identity shift to have options. And I have to just step out on faith because I want better things for my life. I want to like what I'm doing. If I'm going to work, I should like what I'm working in. I should like it a lot.
Daniela:
[00:14:30] Yes. Oh, yes, I love that. I mean, if we're spending, you know, the majority of our time and energy doing some type of work to support ourselves. Why not enjoy that work? You know. Why not actually choose something we enjoy doing? And you know, commit more to that path instead of buying into the belief that you know work is work, and you know, maybe you're miserable, but just stick with it, because at least it pays the bills, right?
Diane:
[00:15:00] Oh! That's a yes.
Daniela:
[00:15:04] It is; it really is. I mean, that's kinda the conclusion I reached after giving English teaching one last shot so many years later. It was sort of my way of coming back to Spain. I wanted to experience that environment again in that lifestyle, and English was teaching was the quickest way, you know, to drop in again. But it didn't take me long to realize that it just wasn't aligned for me anymore. And I felt like a completely different person trying to do that job again. I almost had to drop into a past version of me to be reminded of how far I've come, how much I've evolved the last 15 years. What are my priorities now? What values have shifted? Where is my focus? And I realized I had put myself in a container and in a role that was never gonna allow me to grow in, according to my higher vision, that I had very clear in my mind even then.
[00:16:09] And it was hard, though it was knowing all of that and feeling all of that, I felt so much chaos in my body, knowing how misaligned it felt, and I still really struggled to let go. I really struggled to surrender and leave that behind, and dive into the unknown and leave the income behind, even though it wasn't a lot of income. But it has been a lot. I was like, this is peanuts. I'm barely paying my rent with this, but it's stable. It's the perception of that certainty that was so hard for me to leave behind. Have you experienced anything like that with the shift, that kind of letting go and releasing and surrendering into the unknown?
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Diane:
[00:16:57] Yeah, letting go is hard. There's an astrologer and a mycologist that I followed on TikTok. I’m not always on TikTok that much recently. But she said. Something along the lines of humans don't like change. That’s one of the things that humans don't like, change. And I was like, why is she so right all the time? Like everything she says, I resonate with it. I'm like, she's so smart like. Why this particular thing? I don't want it to be true, but it's so true.
[00:17:27] And I want to say congratulations to you, even with the chaos of your journey, for just surrendering and trying. Because, like, I think that is true about humans. And we stay in these things that just there is nothing that's going to give us anymore. But I don't think we are. I don't know if it's trained or socialized. I don't know what the word is, but I don't think we, in our brains, look at life that way. It's like you can look at certain things like it's supposed to last your whole life. And that's not true. You move through friends, relationships, jobs, interests. Jobs is no different, so knowing that about the shift, and then the letting go like letting go was hard, and also because it was just last year I was. I was in a position where it was like $10 an hour, and I was just like, no.
Daniela:
[00:18:20] Doesn't feel good, does it?
Diane:
[00:18:22] But I was still suffering like the money was coming in. I’m laughing because it was so ridiculous. The money was just like the slowest trickle; I used a little of it and paid pay my rent, finished. This is not life. I literally should just say F it all and see what happens and offer my services because at least I'm in charge of my prices. What is this?
Daniela:
[00:18:47] True. Is that what ended up happening? How did you transition into your astrology work and community building from that place?
Diane:
[00:18:53] Yeah, that is pretty much what happened. You know, I realized that business like people. : people have different businesses. But I think, like you do, what you're good at. You do what you know. Community building is really easy for me because it's just a big part of it is just being in contact with people a lot. But you start getting more strategic about it, like, because you don't want to be on Facebook the whole day talking to people. So, you have your strategy. And or you build your strategies. And then with astrology, I think I mentioned it that I took a bus from Da Nang to Hanoi, and I had about $40 to my name, and then there was a typhoon that hit like. 2 days after I came to this city.
Daniela:
[00:19:35] Wow! We talk about timing. What?
Diane:
[00:19:38] Ridiculous, I've and I I was in that point because in Da Nang the weather was quite mild, so I wasn't even checking the weather a lot in general, and I just happened to check, and it said there was a typhoon, and I was like, you are joking. And in the morning. I was like, you guys are not, you're not serious, Hanoi. And then the morning came, and then, like the wind started, and I was like. I don't have much food on me. I'm just gonna buy chips. I just got a lot of chips and noodles, and I was like, I didn't.
Daniela:
[00:20:08] Oh, no! Nobody prepared you for that. That is wild.
Diane:
[00:20:12 At all! And then like that, it was a Saturday. Oh, I remember the day it was Saturday, September 7, 2024, and then that evening I was like, well, the electricity is still on, the winds are out like the winds were a lot. It was so quiet outside. You heard nothing but the winds. And I was like, I think I'm just gonna start offering my services. Why not? I'm not doing anything else. And that was really how I started.
Daniela:
[00:20:37] Wow! You reached this point of like, you know what, like, F it. I've got nothing to lose. I might as well just try.
Diane:
[00:20:48] Nothing to lose. I started talking to people on Reddit. Offered a few people my services, and then it just went from there; you just talk to people. They either want a reading or they don't, or they're interested in something like that. And it's always this thing in business. You're just always in some kind of communication with people, and I'm just getting used to that. So that’s how it started.
Daniela:
[00:21:05] Oh, beautiful, beautiful! Oh, I want to dive into our astrology a little bit. Since we're talking about astrology, I always think it's fun to dissect the Big 3 a little bit. So what are your, what are your big 3?
Diane:
[00:21:22] Okay, so I'm a Capricorn sun and a Libra moon. No, Libra sun. Wait. What did I say? Capricorn, ascendant.
Daniela:
[00:21:32]: Alright! Let's start over.
Diane:
{00:21:38] I'm a Capricorn ascendant, Libra sun, and a Pisces moon. Okay, yes.
Daniela:
[00:21:48] Oh, wait, Libra, sun, Pisces, moon, Capricorn rising. Libra sun. Oh, Libra, sun, so you must love beauty; you must love balance and harmony. I could see that being a little tricky you've got. You've got earth, air, and water all kind of running the show and your personalities. That's interesting.
Diane:
[00:22:12] But you know that I think with Capricorn and Libra, because they're both like cardinal signs, and, you know, like cardinal signs start off like the seasons, and they say it's like boss energy, whether it's boss or not. I will say I honestly do think it gives me a kind of focus. Because, like, I'm very serious and intentional about what I'm doing, I want my life to be better. I want to support people. I want to be supportive and make good money. Because why not?
Daniela:
[00:22:38] That's gotta be your Capricorn. Rising then definitely, it gives you like that natural sense of responsibility and a little bit more seriousness, but makes you very trustworthy and very good with making money, I mean, that must be natural to you.
Diane:
[00:22:53] It's getting better. It's not natural to. I took a $10 an hour job last year.
Daniela:
[00:22:58] Right? I understand. Yeah, yeah. Oh, me, so I'm in Aries sun, Leo Moon, and Aquarius rising.
Diane:
[00:23:10] Aquarius, rising. Okay.
Daniela:
[00:23:14] Yes. Yeah.
Diane:
[00:23:15] Are you like? Are you really into it? Well, first, I thought of revolutions. Groups movements. You know, it's like power to the people energy, like, yeah!
Daniela:
00:23:34] For the Collect group. For the collective. Yeah, it's so interesting. The more I've learned about astrology over the years, the more I realize how much I am an Aquarius. Rising energy has influenced my brand overall. Even the name, the Humanista Co., is very much about this revolution of humanizing brands. Humanizing collectives, humanizing our personal expression in the way that we show up as our truest selves. It's really for me, I actually created this as a movement to inspire and empower people to be the truest version of themselves to be, you know who we were born to be. By taking off all the masks of conditioning and all the things that we hide behind that block us from expressing who we truly are.
Diane:
[00:24:22] That is beautiful. And the whole time you were saying that, I was like, how on point is that? Like, you cannot make this up.
Daniela:
[00:24:37] Isn't that wild? I had no idea that Aquarius energy, you know, was impacting me and impacting the vision it is. I got the vision for this brand in 2018, many years ago. Now, I had no idea that was in any way related to Aquarius. Energy of starting movements, you know, or revolutionizing something, or or focusing on the collective and society as a whole. Creating transformations, but not in a conventional way. You know it's very rebellious.
Diane:
[00:25:04] Yes, this is your time. Pluto's in Aquarius. This is your time.
Daniela:
[00:25:12] Thanks, girl. Yeah, it is an exciting time, I know. For many, it is also a very scary time because we're seeing so much chaos and so much dismantling of systems. You know that we've become so comfortable with. But I'm wondering if even you know, with your Libra placement, if you've kind of had an eye on this sense of like equality or balance within the larger scale, the global scale. I'm curious what your perspective is on the age of Aquarius right now.
Diane:
[00:25:42.] I have just been thinking because one of the first things. There were two things I saw on TikTok. First, I saw how the last time this was going on, it was like the Revolutionary War of 1789, and like in that period, there was just a lot of crazy stuff going on in different parts of the world. And then also, I think it was another TikTok user. They brought up the thing. What's his name? Oh, Assassin bae, the guy with the United Healthcare. How do I say this? He unalived the United Healthcare CEO, but it was like, that's a sign of the times, because the healthcare system is horrible in the US. What’s happening, it's like a sign. Like hey, the people are coming back. We're taking our rights. We're gonna be treated well; we need healthcare. We need universal healthcare that should not be denied to people. That's ridiculous.
[00:26:43] And the TikToker was saying like, that's a good sign of the times. Get with it, or you're gonna have issues. If you're not for the people, and I was like right on.
Daniela:
[00:26:49] Yeah, that's a really good insight. Yeah, it's like a time of really restoring balance and equality to very, very imbalanced societal structures that have been. Yes, holding things up, but not from a stable foundation when it's from that place of imbalance. So for me, I am excited in a way to see how the world is going to continue shifting in such a rapid way. Since Aquarius is the air sign, I feel it's a very fast, aerial sort of perspective and movement. As a society, fast changes are happening every day, even with technology as well. It's been really interesting.
Diane:
[00:27:31] Weird things with AI. I've seen some weird things with robots. Do you remember that movie by iRobot?
Daniela:
[00:27:41] I remember who was in that. I definitely remember the title. Who's in that?
Diane:
[00:27:48] Will Smith, but I'm not a thousand sure.
Daniela:
[00:27:50]: I was thinking, Will Smith, yeah, yeah.
Diane:
[00:27:55] There's another movie I'm thinking of, I Am Legend. But originally, I'm thinking of iRobot. But you know, an irobot like the robots were taking over. And that movie was like 20 years ago, and I still remember how freaked out I was. And I was like, now it’s happening.
Daniela:
[00:28:10] I know I was like, yes, this is a hypothetical, but this is where the future is headed, you know, even back then, I could feel it. I was like, we need to be discerning, and, you know, keep our eyes on this technological advancement, because that's what I mean about balance. You could go balls to the wall with these technical, technological changes in evolution. I mean, we're pretty much unlimited in what we can create with technology. But I think it's so important to bring a sense of balance to bring a sense of humanity to technology, to make sure we don't lose the sole essence, you know, of who we are as human beings, showing up through technology and interacting.
Diane:
[00:29:00] Coexist, not like technology ruling our lives. It's not like, hey, let robots do everything. No, we're still here.
Daniela:
[00:29:04] We're still here. And yes, it's important to still maintain some autonomy, you know, in the way technology is advancing, I think, especially as business owners. This actually leads me into the concept of human design, which I think is so interesting. I know we were both really interested in it. I am curious. What's your experience been with human design in terms of how you operate, or what clarity has it given you into your life?
Diane:
[00:29:33] It is interesting because it reminds me of how I do astrology readings and some like something I say a lot is that like one part of your chart may say one thing, and this part will say another thing, but it's like it's saying a similar thing just from different angles. And that's how human design looks to me because they're just things I'm taking from astrology. And then human design. And I'm like, that's saying the same thing like in both systems. It's like a theme of groups. It's a theme of being, very like corrective focus. If that makes any sense. I like fixing things. I like things being corrected.
[00:30:17] Both systems.Things being correct.Something else that I saw was it something with Mars? I don't remember exactly what it is right now. But then also, even in the profile, like the 2 4, I was like looking at my astrology chart, and I was like, Oh, maybe that explains the moon in Pisces a little bit or. : Maybe this in this house explains, like the group thing, a little bit, and I've just been bringing it together and then looking at my lived experiences.
[00:30:43] And I'm like, yeah, focus on this. And just like, stay in this lane like this has been me the whole time. But of course you don't always see these things. But sometimes you're just in life, and you're just like, just like a motor. And you're just going and going and going, and nothing is making sense because you're not even looking at your life. You're just doing what people tell you to do. And it is unfortunate.
Daniela:
[00:31:01] Oh, my gosh, yes, Diane, I could talk about this. I could talk about this all day long. It's I'm so excited hearing you talk about it because I've been coming to the same realizations. I've been studying human design as the science of differentiations. You know, a system that helps us understand what makes us different from everybody else. Pairing that with astrology, which basically helps you uncover the same thing just from a more cosmic spiritual perspective. They're both inner blueprints. They are literally both tools and systems that we can understand to illuminate how we're naturally designed to be in this world, like our purpose. You know the role we're meant to take, the specific strategy in which we interact with others. That's gonna lead to the best results. You know, things like that I have found so interesting. And I've started working with clients, you know, to dissect both systems, both charts to really help people illuminate, like the truth of who they are, which I think is so incredibly powerful. Because, like you said, if you don't understand who you are on a soul level on an innate level. If you don't understand that blueprint of how you're designed to operate, it's so easy to get conditioned from all these other things outside of us. It's so easy to get lost in the trap of comparison. Like, this 7-figure business owner built it this way. Follow my 10 steps to success, and you'll have the replicate, the same results. You know what I mean, like I see you laughing, like, have you seen this? I see this every day in the online space. And I, honestly, I'm sick of it. I'm sick of it.
Diane:
[00:32:53] Or you can make 10 K. In 10 days, if you follow these exact steps. And I'm like, just stop, because I'm not saying you're lying per se. But whatever you're doing may not work for me. Also, on top of that, you may have just be doing something where generating a lot of money is easy. You could be trading people like business smoke and mirrors. People will have these blanket statements, but no one's really saying if they actually got there how they say they got there, but they're using that to get you reeled in. It's not what you think, and in my mind, that's not fair. And you know, if you like, if you haven't actually built something from scratch, and you don't know how to do it. And you haven't achieved this specific thing you're talking about. Just don't talk about it. Just talk about what you actually know how to do, like people are getting scammed every day. People are getting lied to every day, and people are confused every day, and then it makes them feel like they're less than when you just need to go take a walk outside, actually, and just stop paying attention to all this, constantly. It’s just a lot.
Daniela:
[00:34:02] Constantly.: It did it. It's a lot. It is a lot. And that's such an important point about deception, especially in the online space. Yes, there's a lot of deception out there, but also, some of it I do believe is unintentional. Because, let's say, someone actually did follow these 10 steps that unlocked 10 K. Months for them. But why it worked for them was because they were following their innate blueprint and strategy, whether they were conscious of it or not. That's really what I've been observing.
[00:34:41] Let's say, in human design. For example, you discover your type is a projector, right? Which is, that's my type. I mean, that's the one I know best. So, you know, projectors we’re meant to be guides and leaders and to share our unique perspective. Instead of being extremely productive and super action-oriented and doing a lot of tasks, we're meant to have a very focused energy to guide people to results. So a projector's way of operating is gonna be so different from, what was your type? I think you told me, Generator.
Diane:
[00:35:16] A manifesting generator. Yeah.
Daniela:
[00:35:18] Manifesting. So you have a completely different way of operating. You have access to unlimited natural energy. You're going to impact people in a different way than a projector or a different type. So your way of building your success is going to look very different from that of a projector, for example. So you're going to have a totally different like, follow my 10 steps to success. You know what worked for you. It's not going to work for someone who has a different type or a different astrological blueprint. Maybe someone has totally different placements in the birth chart from you. Your strategies might not be effective for someone who's built very differently. And I think that's where a lot of business owners and entrepreneurs teaching strategies. I think this is where it's really falling short, because what works for, you know, Jane DOE isn't going to work for someone who's designed opposite from Jane DOE, and if that person tries to follow Jane DOE's method. It's gonna, there's gonna be friction. There's gonna be resistance. It's gonna feel cringey because it's not natural.
Diane:
[00:36:28] Yeah, I have a story about that in the very beginning when I was starting out in my head. And actually, this is not last year. This was because there was a time when I was just giving readings. And then last year, I started more on the business part, a little bit more. Started more like after pushing it out, more. I thought, if you just like, tell people about what you do then like, obviously, that's going to equal clients. I was like, yeah, if I just tell them I give astrology readings, they're totally going to pay for this reading or this package. And I was like, I did that enough to where I was like, wow! This isn't working for me. This might work for someone else. But this is not, this is not for me. And it was a really big eye opener. So I have to say, like you saying that maybe some people what they're teaching, even if it doesn't work for everyone. It's unintentional that I actually agree with that. That makes a lot of sense because we're literally not all the same, and it kind of makes me laugh because, since we're not all the same, there is no one blueprint.
Daniela:
[00:37:42] Exactly, exactly. Yes, yes, that's a good example, though. I appreciate you sharing that. Yeah. I mean, it's happened to me many times. You know there have been things I've invested in. There's been mentors that I've tried to follow their strategy. I even caught myself because, unintentionally, I started mimicking a mentor I admired. I started speaking like them, or even started designing, you know, in the same style as someone I admired, and I didn't mean to. It was very subconscious. That's because I didn't know what my inner blueprint was yet. I didn't have that clear understanding. So it was a very subconscious way of absorbing other people's energy and their ways of doing things, and so almost their identity, in a sense. But I didn't have a clear sense of identity. At that time.
Diane:
[00:38:34] Yeah, yeah, business is beautiful. And that as you go on your own personal identity, whether you want to call it branding or whatever, it gets stronger, and you just feel better, more aligned. And that I'm actually really going to think about that after our call. It's not really about if this or that is possible. It's just more like your road to get there is going to be different.
[00:43:37] Things take time. It's like discovering what your road is. And even if that's something you want to do, you know, like not, everyone actually wants an empire. That's a lot of responsibility, a lot of work, a lot of money, a lot of people working under you that is literally not for everybody, and that's fine. There's nothing wrong with that. So I'm not even thinking about this. Yeah.
Daniela:
[00:39:19] Okay, that's great. Yeah, that's a really good point, you know. And people's, mean, you know, as an astrologer, people's North nodes their path to purpose. You know their destiny path. That's going to be very different. For many different people, we have many very different destinies and purposes and roles that we came here to embody, and not everyone's here to be a big boss, CEO, or, you know, 8-figure business owner. And that it's completely okay. I think that's what I love so much about astrology and human design. Honestly, it's really like discovering your inner permission slip to be who you came here to be. Naturally, you know.
Diane:
[00:40:03] Yeah, you can just relax in it like, you don't have to like stress yourself out like trying to make things work this and this way, like, just just relax like, just do like what for you? And of course, even though I say, relax like I know, like things like fear and like doubt, are still there, and there's no issue with it like there's no issue with the fact that it exists. But you can relax more and just know that, like what is in your blueprint, and then what you're doing are in alignment and just feel natural in it, like it's a relief.
Daniela:
[00:40:33] Yes, I'm literally breathing a sigh of relief as you say that. It's like, oh, thank God, I can literally just do what's natural to me. I don't have to be like anyone else or talk like anyone else. I can just be me. And I can really find my definition of success following my unique path yeah.
Diane:
[00:40:57] I want to ask, before I forget. I wanted to ask about human design and your astrology chart, like, what are the overlaps, the similarities like? What.
Daniela:
[00:41:09] That's a really good question. Yeah, I've been thinking a lot about that as well. I mean, knowing that I'm a projector, designed to lead and guide others. I can find overlap there with, let's say, my sun, in Aries, which also leans towards natural leadership. Natural leadership, you know, being a trailblazer. But it's very interesting, I think, what's coming to mind most. I have 4 placements in Capricorn in the 11th house. The House of spirit, of astrology, the House of Groups, the House of community. So I'm finding that it's almost like my inner blueprint is telling me you're meant to lead and guide a spiritual community. And when I discovered this, I was like, wow! Oh, and then learning about human design has been really helpful to understand. But how? The how part? How do I execute that? I learned in my profile that I am a. 4, 6, which means, with the 4 line. Do we share the 4 line in common? I think.
Diane:
[00:42:19] Yeah, we do.
Daniela:
[00:42:21] Yeah. So that means we're natural networkers. We're natural connectors. We love people, which I also see that very related to the community piece in my birth chart. We love people, we love community, we love connecting, you know, our main opportunities in business are actually going to come through our network. So for me, learning about that, like, I understand what I'm here to do or build through astrology and human design is helping me understand how I'm meant to go out in the real world and build it and and leverage my network. Or you know how to market it, how to interact with people. Without burning myself out, and I'm not meant to be a hustler. Yeah, how about you? Have you noticed some key overlap with your charts?
Diane:
[00:43:10] The big thing. I touched on it a little bit earlier. But the big thing that's like coming together is the networking thing because I'm literally remembering how it's happened recently with a woman in a group, and we were talking about skincare. And then afterwards, somehow, we started talking about astrology, and I mentioned that I do card readings also. And then she bought a card reading. Then a recent friend I've made, like we did not meet originally it was another. a woman connecting us, and then we became friends. And now she's buying an astrology reading, and I'm like, I should just make friends. Maybe that should be my strategy. Just befriend people.
Daniela:
[00:43:56] You are a 4. You are a line 4 in human design. That is the strategy. You are meant to just make friends and connections.
Diane:
[00:44:02] It's so funny, though, because it was I was. Do anything at all. I didn't even expect it to happen, but okay. Universe. Let's just make it happen.
Daniela:
[00:44:10] Oh, I love that! I love that! Oh, Diane! Oh, my gosh! I could literally talk to you for hours and hours, and I we'll have to do a part. 2. Honestly, I think we'll have to be continued, you know. Kind of a series with Daniela and Diane. I think that'd be fun.
[00:44:29] Yes, I love it. Oh, my goodness! Well, where can people find you? Where can they learn about your amazing services? Your community.
Diane:
[00:44:38] Yeah. So, first, I have my Facebook group, Women in Business and Abundance. You can just request to join inside the group. It's basically networking and then just asking connecting questions, you know, because I think the point in having a group is for us to connect. If you're connecting in the comments connecting the DMs. Maybe people do summits, podcasts, master classes, the different things you have going on, or inviting people to come and watch what you're doing something like that. So that's what the group is for.
[00:45:1146]: And then just my main profile page, Diane Nnaemeka, where I just have updates about my business and life in general. And then my website has my astrology services. And that will be updated soonish. because, yeah, my website needs to be updated.
Daniela:
[0045:32] Awesome, awesome. Well, thank you so much for being here. I have loved every second of this conversation. Yes.
Diane:
[00:45:38] This is great. Thank you so much.
Daniela:
[00:45:41] Thank you, and thanks to everybody tuning in. Whether you're watching or listening to this episode, thanks for tuning into the Sacred Style Podcast, and I will catch you next time. Bye.
About Diane Nnaemeka—a world traveler, astrologist, spiritualist, Community Builder, and Founder of the Women in Business and Abundance Community for women entrepreneurs.
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